MAY 15, 2007
VOLUME 4 NO. 9

POLICY & POLITICS

The Interview

Go ahead, make my day

It's a big year for George Smitherman, Ontario's outspoken, openly gay health minister and deputy premier. In August, he's set to marry his partner of 10 years. Then in October he faces a high-stakes provincial election. The high school dropout-turned-rainmaker talks to NRM about his hothead reputation, "Taj Ma-hospitals" and choosing his nuptial knickers.



Photos of Mr Smitherman: Mark Coatsworth

You earned the nickname Furious George early in your Queen's Park career. Does the shoe fit? I think I'm doing better all the time — I'm a work in progress. I've got a lot of things I gotta make happen and sometimes in my desire to do that, the force of my personality outmatches the ability of other people to handle it.

Why'd you say optometrists are "a bunch of terrorists, and I don't negotiate with terrorists" during a fee dispute? It was bred out of a moment of frustration. My relationship with the optometrists is pretty good now. But of course it was a stupid thing to say.

Stephen Colbert [the host of the satirical Colbert Report] was sure impressed. He saluted you, saying "Bravo, sir. Optometrists are a menace. You have to be careful with a group that gets their kicks blowing air into our eyeballs." I figured 'As long as they are using your name...' If it'd been Jon Stewart, I would've felt worse. I like him miles better.

In another passionate outburst, you publicly wept over the neglect of the elderly at nursing homes. Was that a put on? No, not at all. I was shown pictures by a journalist in my office actually. A special part of working in healthcare as a politician is it is an emotional exercise.

You're Ontario's first openly gay MPP. How's that working for you? It's a fantastic expression of Ontario, because it's kind of irrelevant now. I'm very lucky — unfortunately I know others who haven't been so lucky. Here, on the 25th anniversary of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, I cherish Canada all the more. Hey, I almost cried there again.

Really? No, just kidding.

Do you feel bad about publicly making fun of Opposition leader John Tory's diet regime? That's not what happened at all. The guy loses all that weight in a month, then tells the media he was on some 800 calorie-a-day diet. They asked me what I thought. Well, I'm not a clinician, so I just said it explains why he doesn't have the energy to come up with new ideas.

Wedding bells for Mr Smitherman

You proposed to your boyfriend [Lindt exec] Christopher Peloso at Christmas. Will you be a jittery bridegroom? Nervous isn't my thing. I'm really pumped up for it.

You've threatened to wear a thong to the wedding. Have you picked one out yet? You know, I caused a few sleepless nights for people who had that image come to mind.

You and Christopher are planning to adopt a kid. Won't being a dad cramp your Furious George style? First I'm going to make a long term commitment with Christopher, then negotiate a commitment with my constituents, then make a life long commitment to a kid to complete the trifecta.

What does your mum think about all this? My mother adores Christopher and, like me, she feels very, very fortunate that he's willing to put up with my bullshit.

You don't sound too busted up about it... I thought that was one of the better responses I've had to the media in three and a half years.

You called incoming CMA prez Dr Brian Day "a grave threat" to medicare. Is he the Darth Vader of Canadian healthcare? Yeah, sure. I think that there are some seducers out there who are prepared to poach and cherry-pick here and there, with their own benefit in mind.

Ontario's emerged as a bit of a defender of medicare. Do you see yourself as Mr Medicare? Yes, I think it's our role to play. I don't think that privatization of healthcare is about doctors — it is about investors and Bay Street. Ontario is well-poised, because of our scale, to play a positive role across the country.

Do you resent it when the feds try to bribe you, such as with the recent wait times windfall? No, on the contrary. I'm very pumped up about it. I do have to use my bully pulpit though.

You're pretty long in the tooth as health ministers go. Any fallen comrades you miss from the old days? When I first became a health minister, there were three health ministers from the west — Dave Chomiak from Manitoba, John Nilson from Saskatchewan and Gary Marr from Alberta. Two New Democrats and a Conservative, of all things. They really made me feel welcome, they helped me a lot.

You've suggested the smoking ban should be extended into people's homes. Doesn't that strike you as a little Big Brother-ish? I don't think we all want to live in a place where every third person is a bylaw enforcement officer, but we have to work hard to find a balance there. When I pull up beside a car — and it doesn't happen often, but I am observant — and see someone is smoking with a kid in the car, I'm inclined to draw awareness.

You mean you yell at them to butt out? If I can get their attention, yeah.

How did your fellow Grits react to your drug addiction bombshell? Some appreciated my candour, and some sure as hell don't want to hear another word about it.

The best of George Smitherman

"Optometrists are a bunch of terrorists, and I don't negotiate with terrorists"

"Taj Ma-hospitals" — his term for lavish building plans dreamed up by Ontario's hospital boards

"I'm the Harry Truman of the ministry of health — 'The buck stops here'" — on criticism over the new LHIN structure

"Well, we don't have grade 13 anymore, so I like to think I was just ahead of my time" — on dropping out of high school in grade 13.

Were you irked when Stephen Harper was a no-show at last year's Toronto AIDS conference? You know what, I just felt like a proud local host. I am a gay man, I'm involved in the fundraising side of AIDS work. I've lost friends and have friends affected currently. At the conference I got to sit near Gates, and I saw him and Clinton together. I loved it — it was awesome.

You had to eat crow after all your tough talk to the OMA during the 2004 physician contract negotiations. Did you patch things up? We were pretty forceful, our approach was brash and caused some challenges, but the agreement we negotiated with these doctors has produced very, very fantastic results. We're in the preliminaries now of feeling each other out for the next agreement — there's a modest amount of money for existing inequities from our previous agreement. We had our tough days of course, but I take it all in stride.

There are rumours that doctor billing has spiralled out of control since the cap was scrapped. 'Out of control' is the freedom of the writer. The story I heard was ophthalmologists were finishing for the weekend at noon on Thursdays because the billing cap didn't make it worth staying. So we said why cap doctors who have a service to offer when there's a patient who wants that service? Getting rid of the cap was not a gesture, it was a very serious stepping up to the plate.

Be honest — are greedy docs taking advantage of the demise of the hated Medical Review Committee to cheat on their billings? I'll stand before Ontario doctors and tell them that trust and respect is the foundation of our relationship.

Do you think solo FPs should go the way of the dodo? The view I've taken as Minister is, if there's a doctor, we love them, we need them and if they prefer to practice in the way they always have, we'll support that because we know patients will be well cared for.

Interview conducted by Sam Solomon

 

 

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